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UFOs: Fact or Fiction?
« on: May 21, 2021, 05:00:11 PM »
In Arizona we are famous for at least 2 incidents:

- The so-called Travis Walton "The Fire In The Sky" incident back in 1975 and
- The Arizona Lights or Phoenix Lights in Phoenix in 1997.

UF0 Abductee Travis Walton Extended Interview




VIDEO: It's been 24 years since mysterious lights hovered over Phoenix




Where to go to report a UFO sighting: LINK: MUFON - Mutual UFO Network
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Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2021, 03:21:35 AM »

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Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2021, 12:49:07 PM »
I shot something that can only be described as a UFO. I analyzed it and thought it was a drone prototype but here see for yourself, it's one of the best UFO/UAP videos you can see, and yeah it looked exactly like that! The strange thing is that it seemed to notice we were observing it and it hovered for more than 2 hours.






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Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2021, 01:09:08 PM »
I shot something that can only be described as a UFO. I analyzed it and thought it was a drone prototype but here see for yourself, it's one of the best UFO/UAP videos you can see, and yeah it looked exactly like that! The strange thing is that it seemed to notice we were observing it and it hovered for more than 2 hours.


I seem to remember years ago you also had some night time video footage of an incident in Turkey with a UFO.. am I correct?

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Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2021, 03:20:04 PM »
This is an authentic UAP footage of an incident at Princess Islands, Istanbul. Read the texts.

I shot something that can only be described as a UFO. I analyzed it and thought it was a drone prototype but here see for yourself, it's one of the best UFO/UAP videos you can see, and yeah it looked exactly like that! The strange thing is that it seemed to notice we were observing it and it hovered for more than 2 hours.


I seem to remember years ago you also had some night time video footage of an incident in Turkey with a UFO.. am I correct?



https://globalnews.ca/news/7871671/ufo-video-water-san-diego-california-2019-omaha/

https://www.today.com/news/ufo-disappears-ocean-newly-leaked-navy-video-t218582

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/ufo-sighted-over-ocean-vanishing-water-leaked-us-navy-video-1805907-2021-05-23

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/business/2021/05/19/ufo-navy-video-jeremy-corbell-orig-jm.cnn


Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs




Pilot Captures Foo Fighter Near His Plane Over Karachi, Pakistan 1-23-2021, UFO Sighting News.

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Re: UFOs: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2021, 11:47:03 PM »
Right. So UFO's do exist. Whether these are just hypersonic drones or some kind of alien tech is the open question right now :D

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Re: UFOs: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2021, 01:48:02 AM »
If you have a Washington Post subscription like I do - this is an amazing article that just came out today.

WAPO: How UFO sightings went from joke to national security worry in Washington - date May 23, 2021
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Re: UFOs: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2021, 01:19:46 AM »
If you have a Washington Post subscription like I do - this is an amazing article that just came out today.

WAPO: How UFO sightings went from joke to national security worry in Washington - date May 23, 2021

It might as well be quite real. I still think it might be a disinformation campaign to conceal hypersonic drone and spaceplane activity. But who really knows? I'd be the first to welcome our extraterrestrial overlords, as usual.


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Re: UFOs: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2021, 01:27:35 AM »

It might as well be quite real. I still think it might be a disinformation campaign to conceal hypersonic drone and spaceplane activity. But who really knows? I'd be the first to welcome our extraterrestrial overlords, as usual.
I never rule out the idea that it is testing drones/planes, but this issue begs if it's ALWAYS been testing. Did we have hypersonic drones in the 80's for example?
(Maybe? Who the heck knows lol)
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Re: UFOs: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2021, 03:23:05 PM »
WTF???

Strange Looking Creature Captured Transforming on Camera at 3700 Feet in the Indian Ocean

https://fb.watch/5TmGpdpNId/


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Re: UFOs: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2021, 01:28:38 AM »
I think it's a comb jelly
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Re: UFOs: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2021, 08:46:28 PM »
If there are aliens, they're probably chill. I had a dream as a kid where I was in a weird modernist building (organic shape modernism, not concrete blocks), and there were a bunch of beings resembling Data from Star Trek, whom were all smiling and waving at me. I woke up and described them to my Dad, who was able to draw them exactly as I had remembered from the dream. I still don't know what the hell that dream meant, if anything.

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Re: UFOs: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2021, 04:42:12 AM »
I might have seen one once as a child. It was an orb moving about in a spiral pattern. I question if i imagined it though because it seemed like I was the only one who could see it

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Re: UFOs: Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2022, 03:30:58 PM »
UFO hearing features historic testimony from Pentagon officials


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/05/17/ufo-hearing-congress/





Congress held a rare public hearing Tuesday into the existence of what the government calls unidentified aerial phenomena, more commonly known as UFOs, a subject of scrutiny by the Pentagon and U.S. intelligence agencies following an increase in sightings by military personnel and pilots in recent years.

By taking testimony from senior government officials, lawmakers intended to bring “out of the shadows” a Defense Department organization that has been tracking the sightings, said Rep. André Carson (D-Ind.), chairman of the House Intelligence subcommittee on counterterrorism, counterintelligence and counterproliferation.



On May 17, Congress held a hearing on UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena), better known as UFOs. Here's why. (Video: Monica Rodman, Sarah Hashemi/The Washington Post)


That effort, revealed in 2017, has collected eyewitness accounts, including from naval aviators who said they saw flying objects that seemed to lack any visible means of propulsion and defied human understanding of aerodynamics and physics.

The hearing was the first time in more than 50 years that U.S. officials have provided testimony for public consumption about their investigation of UFOs. The Air Force closed its inquiry into the subject, Project Blue Book, in 1970.

“We know that our service members have encountered unidentified aerial phenomena,” Ronald S. Moultrie, the undersecretary of defense for intelligence and security, told the bipartisan panel of lawmakers. “We are committed to an effort to determine their origins.”

While the hearing marked a significant moment in the government’s efforts to reveal more of what it knows about unexplained objects in the sky, it was short on revelations. Scott W. Bray, deputy director of naval intelligence, played a brief video of what he described as “a spherical object” with a reflective surface as it zoomed past the cockpit of a U.S. F-18 fighter jet.

“I do not have an explanation for what this specific object is,” Bray said.

Lawmakers asked Bray to replay the video and pause on the fast-moving object, which was difficult given its speed.

The video was newly declassified and aired for the first time at the hearing. Earlier footage from naval aircraft and ships has shown other unexplained phenomena observed for longer periods.

One of the most famous of those sightings, taken by jets from the USS Nimitz aircraft carrier in 2004, shows an object that appears to dart through the air in many directions at tremendous speed. UFO researchers have dubbed it the Tic Tac because of its capsule-like shape.

The highly trained pilots who witnessed the object — which Bray said remains unexplained — have said publicly that they were baffled and reluctant to discuss their experience, owing to a persistent culture of stigmatizing aviators who report UFOs.

Bray and Moultrie said the military wants to change that culture. In recent years, personnel have been encouraged to report sightings, and the military now has a standardized system to track and analyze information.

“The message is clear: If you see something, you need to report it,” Bray said.



The USS Russell and the USS Omaha captured video appearing to show UFOs flying, hovering and splashing into the ocean. (Video: Jeremy Corbell)


Sightings by military personnel have been especially high, leading some to speculate that military equipment and facilities may be of particular interest to whomever is behind the unidentified craft, including a foreign military.

But a 2021 report by the U.S. intelligence community concluded the clustering of sightings around U.S. military facilities may result from “a collection bias” given the higher level of attention the military has paid, as well as greater numbers of sophisticated sensors in those areas that may be able to capture the unidentified objects on camera or detect signals emanating from them.

Read the full report: A preliminary assessment by the U.S. government on unidentified aerial phenomena

Bray said that the United States has reports from nonmilitary sources, as well, but he did not elaborate.

Officials have said that the unidentified objects could pose a threat to national security. That has helped to spur more openness about the subject. In their testimony, the Pentagon officials focused largely on the potential danger the objects pose to military equipment and personnel, and steered away from speculation about whether the craft were extraterrestrial.

Bray noted that U.S. military pilots have had “11 near-misses” with UFOs. There have been no collisions, he said. He added that the military has never attempted to communicate with the objects or fired on them.

Officials say they are doubtful that the handful of sightings for which there is no clear explanation point to a sophisticated, secretive military technology that Russia, China or other U.S. adversaries possess.

The intelligence report from last year found that U.S. government investigators lacked data to indicate that the craft “are part of a foreign collection program or indicative of a major technological advancement by a potential adversary.”

The government was unable to determine whether more than 140 UFOs were atmospheric events playing tricks on sensors or craft piloted by foreign adversaries, or whether the objects were extraterrestrial in origin.

Defense Department investigators don’t have any physical evidence that would suggest visitors from other worlds have come to Earth, Bray said. But he implicitly acknowledged that the United States has collected tangible objects in the course of its investigation.

“How about wreckage?” asked Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-Ill.) “Have we come across any wreckage of any kind of object that has now been examined by you?”

Bray replied that U.S. investigators don’t “have any wreckage that isn’t explainable, that isn’t consistent with being of terrestrial origin.”

Krishnamoorthi asked if the military had any “sensors underwater” that might have detected submerged objects. Moultrie interjected and said the question would be addressed better in a closed, classified session that followed the public hearing.

How UFO sightings went from joke to national security worry in Washington

Officials have historically been careful in their public discussions of UFOs not to reveal much about sensors and other technology that the military uses to track known adversaries. Moultrie said that the same technology that’s picking up evidence of UFOs is used for routine intelligence operations.

“There aren’t separate UAP sensors,” he said, using the government’s preferred acronym for unidentified aerial phenomena. “It’s not a separate UAP processing computer. It is not a separate UAP dissemination chain or whatever.”

Although the hearing focused primarily on the known evidence associated with the strange craft, it was hard to avoid the 500-pound alien at the center of the room — or perhaps floating above it.

Early in his remarks, Moultrie said that, like many Americans, he had long been fascinated by humans’ quest to explore space and to search for evidence of life beyond our planet.

But the Pentagon’s assessments, he said, were driven by data and evidence, and would not speculate on the origins or nature of objects that couldn’t be positively identified.

But nodding to the obvious fascination with alien beings, Moultrie said that he was a longtime science fiction fan and had attended conventions, though he didn’t “necessarily dress up.”

“Got to break the ice somehow,” Moultrie said to nervous laughter in the hearing room.